the two most restrictive states in the united states governor, had more african-americans and latinos turn out to vote after the voter i.d. law had been put in place. >> i appreciate you trying to tow the party line, but i think it's really clear what the effect of these voter i.d. laws on. i want to get to affirm active action. you say we should end it, because it is taking us backwards rather than advancing people with color as they are unable to move forward without a crutch from the government. there is an affirmative action case before the supreme court now. do you think college admissions should be purely and testing and grades. >> i do. a college also has to take into account diversity. you want a college campus that is reflective of america. i'm also concerned, you look back president kennedy said that race should have no form under the color of law in american life. i think unfortunately his desire to make sure that we had an equal application of the law regardless of your skin color has turned into a quota system. i am not in favor of quotas, of admitting x number of people